I am trying to understand more how that would work / why it won’t.

Is this similar to http://imba.io/ ? If so, there has been a discussion there: [image] An alternative to virtual DOM < 20x faster! Request Feedback Hello guys, Have anyone checked Imba ? It’s a very interesting programming language that compiles to Javascript. It uses a …

Thanks for linking to the discussion. There might be a bit of similarity in the way imba targets the dom.

Rich Harris (the creator of Svelte) said that “Svelte is a language to describe reactive user interfaces, just like Elm, Imba and a few others…”

Interesting perspective. What i actually wanted to ask is whether Elm could get rid of the virtual dom because it seems that strategy works very well for svelte. I was curious if at all no virtual could potentially bring any advantage in terms of simplicity and performance. Thanks!

My understanding is that there is not a major difference in perf based on: [image] Svelte (sveltejs) @czaplic @macsikora In my experience they're basically neck and neck in terms of performance — I haven't studied Elm's output in detail but my understanding is that they're doin…

In a project I’m working on I tried the following approach to do animations: store an animationClock : Float value in the top-level module and pass it down to the views that need it. This allows to not add an onAnimationFrame subscription each time I need an animation, but to use it only once at the…

Does anyone know if the kind of solution used by Svelte would also have the runtime errors issues that virtual DOM and DOM browser extensions sometimes cause?

Svelte is based on quite restricted templates bound to specific fields on an object, and the updates only work if you use it in a certain way. If you for example use a function in a template, it doesn’t get updated when the state changes: https://svelte.dev/repl/b272ae7c3dee478090a4c89254e4afbd?vers…

I see. Thank you. I didn’t take the time to understand how Svelte works.

A virtual DOM based program is necessarily slower (more CPU intensive) than a perfect program that touched the DOM directly because the two programs will perform exactly the same changes to the DOM and the virtual DOM based program will also render and diff the DOM. Assuming, of course, that the “pe…

Could updating the DOM directly instead of the virtual dom get any advantage for elm? (the way it does for svelte)

Learn

dmy July 16, 2019, 12:07pm 2

Is this similar to http://imba.io/?

If so, there has been a discussion there:

Topic		Replies	Views
Can the compiler skip virtual DOM? Learn	10	3573	September 30, 2020
How Svelte and Elm compare? Learn	6	3456	August 22, 2022
How to do CSS in elm? Learn	26	23325	March 19, 2018
Any disadvantage in always using Html.lazy? Learn	22	5149	August 14, 2019
Elm without the virtual DOM? Request Feedback	2	608	February 4, 2024

Could updating the DOM directly instead of the virtual dom get any advantage for elm? (the way it does for svelte)

Related topics